Ok boys keep believing that all the rs and xr's that you see advertised with what always seems to be "69000 miles" are totally genuine.
Iirc I saw a thread back on here a few months back with a 3dr cossie that the owner knows full well has done over 150000 miles in his ownership for sale with a "genuine" 45000 miles on it,but not to upset the new owner he's not letting on the cars true history.
Perhaps it was a bit of a generalised statement but honestly are you telling me that a hell of a lot of cars out there from the 80's/90's survived pre computerised mots without having their mileage "shaved"?
I'd say there's more been clocked from that era that haven't,in fact I'd be very hard pressed to think of many cars that I've owned that haven't in some way or another had a bit of "fettling" be it mileage or otherwise,it's just a trait of buying a used high performance 80's car which believe me I've had loads of,probably 40/50 cars.
Mr thrush,living up to your name for certain.
Current price of a Porsche or RS4? I'm guessing around £40-50000? Totally incomparable to a shitbox ford escort with a few bits of plastic trim and 130bhp in back in 1990 when even the runout S2's struggled to pull £13000 brand new,the modern day equivalent being a fiesta ST etc hence the comparison.
Your argument centred around the fact that RS models even back years ago were the weekend warrior cars of rich folk who knew they were so exclusive that they never did more than a few k a year and just took them to shows at weekends etc.
Well,sorry to shatter your illusions that I speak shit but actually I was involved for 15 years in making parts for ford cars and I can tell you when I started that the carpark was full of rs/xr models as they were cheap,reliable means of transport offered to us at very cheap prices. There were dedicated lines making certain parts that were exclusive to the rs/xr range like rear discs etc and they were busy lines,perhaps not quite the same volumes as the mainstream stuff but still 24hrs a day 5 days a week,we fondly named the rear discs with drum internal hanbrakes "piss pots" as they were a pain in the fucking arse to make as they needed double the machining.
Where I worked you used to get really badly hit if you took the car back after a year or two with anything more than 12k a year on it,as of course these were being p/x all the time for newer or cheaper models due to the deals we got,so I've seen a LOT of cars having a "haircut" on the mileage front.
When they went to digi mileage the local mileage man was near enough a permanent fixture in our carpark,so much so he left his full time job and still works for himself to this day!!!
Sorry if it came across I was "dissing" your ride,I actually think the lexarse are a grat range of motors but you know yourself their extremely good value so I'm not being out of order suggesting their available for a grand!!!
Who knows,perhaps a mint low mileage one of them will hit silly rs prices in years to come?
I think a comparison of rs4 against saph cos and Porsche against perhaps a 3dr would have been a fairer comparison,as the cossies were always big money cars even back then,I looked at an 88 saph in mercury grey with cloth so pretty boggo and he had an invoice for £23000 new,I'd say with all the options that would be a nigh on £28000 car back then so comparable.
My saph has 136k on a h plate with fsh,which i think is low for a 23 year old car,it could be genuine but I'm told it's high mileage by the purists,hence perhaps it's a subject I do find a little amusing when that equates to 5k a year and I know it hasn't been on the road for the last 6!!!
Last edited by vaughant; Oct 18, 2012 at 07:53 PM.