Originally Posted by
750hp escos
The soft ware is a whole load of stuff done by terry dury racing and all the rights are owned by ahmed!!
We have never down loaded anything from internet or bought anything to do with this of ebay..
Also the chip burner you are talking about is called a data man!!!lol..
you take everything so literally...
don't try and make out that the software you have is anything special. i have a copy here that's been floating about for years being swapped on floppy disks back in the day.
i'm not necessarily saying that your copy was downloaded from the internet, but one could download it tonight if one wanted.
i'm also not necessarily saying that your eprom programmer was bought off ebay, but they certainly can be for a few quid, so again it's something that any tom, dick or harry could set themselves up to do.
Originally Posted by
750hp escos
If you can use the soft ware and modify or build new maps using it then that qualifies you to be called what ever you like!!! the end result is the same!!ffs!!
This is tedious trying to explain things to people that know certain things but have never done this with first hand experience..
We have like iv said a 1000 times 100s and 100 s of maps that have all been used by ahmed teryy dury,tommy field ,joe stevens,msd,tony man cock,harvey akmongst many more all on our pc!!!
If we need a map for something we will roughly fit one as abase and then trim it to work..
i've got several copied chips here as well, whoop di do. does that make me any better at mapping because i've had access to other people's work and copied it? no, just like it doesn't make me a musician if i have load of mp3s.
like i said before, i made a utility to allow easier editing of maps and break points than is possible with the TDR software and have used that to make changes to maps and burn them to chips for my own use. i think that makes me qualified enough to talk about it with some authority, but i wouldn't ever dream of selling them under the guise of being a professional mapper.
i was also involved in developments with RPLabs that have led to products and services that Stu is now selling that go way beyond what the original weber hardware and associated software were ever designed to do, so i do know a little bit about some of this stuff
Originally Posted by
750hp escos
If there is no det and the afr is good and the car makes good power and everything is working as it should then the car has a good safe map on it!!
Thats all that matters here..you can go on about the top line and break points all day but it isnt relivant unless youve checked the said map against the said engine spec..
Thats why its waffle because one neither you or chip have done the same exercise and you certainly didnt do this one!!
You are all speculating and the ones that want to listen to tony are and the others are still on the fence or waiting for some proper evidence...
cheers danny
that is true to some extent, and as you say yourself, people who didn't want to pay or wait for a professional map might well be happy with that kind of attitude and service, but i wouldn't.