dojj I offered to take pics late yesterday afternoon whilst I may have been sat close to the pistons I wasn't sat close to my camera then I went home
whilst at home I was sat close to my camera but alas I was no longer sat close to the pistons
I will try if I have time today to be sat close to both

Moonstone has suggested that I take them to ford fair and he can charge a small donation for those that wish to examine them 4i has offered him the loan of his begging bucket roflol