sorry mate, been so busy recently not had chance to come back on here, still really chuffed about my 13.81, planning on going again on the 10th of july i believe it is, my spec is a 2 litre zvh, jampsort head, 2wd cossie t3 gotech management ect. steel bottom end. really chuffed still. a couple of friends of mine have had fwd fords of reasonable spec and know how hard it is to break those 13's. i believe there is better in it still though. thanks for the reply.