thanks for your help like i say i fear it has snapped i dont quite now untill i go to work tomorrow basicly what happened car started fine everything was fine pulled up to a red light put hand brake on lights changed tried to pull off but had hand brake on still so it stalled before i could get clutch down tried to started it and got nothing i could here the starter going at first was pulsing sound but after a few seconds it would spin normaly but every now and agian in would fire up but die straight away sorry for the going on it just really bugging me and hoping to get as much info as i can thanks