to be fair mate the car is spot on apart from this problem which is not a big one,I suppose it could still be the starter as I know they need a bit of power to start,its had a few bits dont to it engine wise,im looking to keep it standard looking on the outside,jumping out of this to my 07 astra van feels like it floats lol thanks for the suggestions,my last one i fittrd an alternator heat shield to the turbo and never had a fault again