They are good for tuning and stuff, but crap for rallying, to noisey (bad for PR), and a lack of torque (there was a vid somewhere of a mk2 doing a rally at the epynt ranges and at nearly every hill they got to (they ain't that big there by the way) and the driver was constantly having to change down a gear cause it just couldn't pull up hills, for street and tuning, get a vtec, for rallying, stick to XE or duratecs