yes i realise that, but with all the hype everyone goes on about vtec you would think it would be some kind of rocket - granted it was quick for an n/a car but i just didnt like it as prefer the kick in the back from a turbo'd car.

Mind you, the E36 im driving at the minute is great fun, 196 bhp and 200lb/ft with a small welded diff - it accelerates great but shit for cruising anywhere, ie on the motorway at 80mph you are doing 4k rpm