Yeah unfortunately the catalogue's the best option. I know you pay over the odds but got no choice really. What's the minimum spec I can go for, for those kind of games? As said before I'm not too fussed about top quality graphics as long as they are playable. As long as I've got a good base, I can upgrade as and when required. For example there are cheaper ones and as long as they are good enough to run average games on then I'd be tempted to buy a cheaper one and then maybe buy a better graphics card at a later date. Is a Pentium E5700 dual core adequate?