Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
For fuck sake. Lets split hairs. So, out of a joint collaboration where AVA spec the Cam and Newman physically press the button on the machine to make it, who claims the credit?? I think Alan would be most disappointed to here that you faithful lot are 'Selling' his hard work with Newmans name on it.
Hows that for ULTIMATE HYPOCRISY??
Faithfull lot!
Since when did selecting a tuner become a matter of faith/cult?
Like yeah we have early morning meetings where all customers must attend and bow before and pledge allegiance to the almighty AVA!
Whilst raising the flag and swearing "the oath of secerecy"
Get real.
As for "selling his cam" refering to Alan:-
Alan would be the 1st to tell you that it is a Newman Cam, and I am sure walking into AVA the sign on the wall would leave you with no doubt as to this fact.
In the same way the sign on the wall would leave you with no doubt as to Universal Turbos being their Turbo supplier.
Selling cams or the services of the tuner I choose is not my aim and not the reason for my use of PassionFord. I do however realise that Touting for buisness on PF is your Job.
You will note that at no point have I sugested that APT and/or Garys ability/inability to map cars was the primary reason for Tonys car blowing up, so why the hostility? I simply stated that Ian would not have had to have been 1.6miles away to have realised that Tonys car had blown up!
The official line is that an Injector failure caused the problem wasnt it?
As a Trader your almost constant putdowns & criticism of other tuners/manufacturers is now somewhat predictable.
It would appear that you feel the need to bring others down to elevate yourself and APT. Id sujest having a good look at the way you come across call it personal development if it makes you feel any better. Like I said earlier Ive nothing to loose nothing to prove, you on the otherhand....