Think you know what i meant in saying one of the biggest,and no not going back as our members dont want it and have spent money on moving on being independant, we have massive support and its great,just dissapointed to miss out on an great day for the club,everything was in place,but like you said if i cant get people to help then there was nothing i could do, like i said,if you think i spoke down to people then i can only say sorry,but that wasnt my intention, thats why i pulled the plug, hope t6o sort it out late this year for our regional 2012, hope to see you at middlesex or our Essex meet, cheers for your comments