Cheers for all the sound advice vaughant I can see u savin me sum pennies! Dingle rs I have read a few of the projects and as good as they are they don't really tell me what I need to hear. I just need a bit of guidance really, rikochet I no that the only way to learn is to do but I just need a head start on some basic info really. I think I'm gona buy a book and some tools and just see where I end up.

Cheers for all the comments guys keep them coming.