well its none a endorsable offence and as for the invalid insurance my mate got done from driving with out a licence and as he had insurance they never done him for that even though he never had L plates on and no passengers with him

he was sent to court for no insurance and no licence but got 3 points for no licence and they canceled the no insurance charge as he did have some

oh and a back dated mot will be checked when he produces and if hes "doctored "it or got a mate to write one in a mot book after when the old bill ask for proof for court he will get done for fraud

thats why i spent sooo long trying to MOT my orion as no fooker wants to take the risks anymore as the MOT bosses are alot more strict

but it deffo is just a fine