cheers for the input lads, really appreciate it. rite, i agree with the to small comment, they run 16's as standard, so there tecnically the same size as standard rims, bar a lot wider, but even though id prefer them bigger, size isnt everything lol. the tyres are stretched, but there not euro vw style, dangerously stretched, its only a little stretch. as for putting wider tyres on, i actually have a full set of nearly new tyres on my st24 rims, that are wider, but even with the narrower tyres on, with my kids in the back, they catch a little bit, so if i was going with wider tyres, id have to get the arch lip chopped/rolled, becasue it would catch pretty bad.