well phil, i took your advise i pulled every fuse, checked and replaced, found 3 blown ones (all minor like reversing light ect)

i then pressed the schrader type valve on the end of the fuel rail to see if ther was fuel pressure, there wasnt!!!

so i swapped some relays around, no change, pulled plugs off things and reseated them, nothing, routed around under the back seat found the plug for the in tank pump, but dont know what wires do what, the red and black wires (logical choice) show no power, are these the pump wires??

looks like i am going to have to buy a haynes book of lies

hope the hospital visit isnt to severe

Ian