cheers mate, thought that was the case.

£70 from ford, cant afford that at the mo but i've got a local breakers that test all parts they can and give warrenty so will try them when i get some cash soon.

to be honest i took the whole door apart today with ease (apart from the crap design of window winder handle and the horrible horrible adhesive) so not sure why you had so many problems. maybe the fronts have more crap in the way than the rears.