i got one on order, won't be here for 3 weeks though, offer expired yesterday though but you may be able to get it if you are quick enough

standard price is £249 but they were on offer to HD cunstomers for £149, but do bare in mind that they will charge you a £30 delivery fee, even though i live a stones throw from sky's head office they wouldn't let me collect it

anyway, my brother came over to visit and, as he was the account holder he said that if they didn't do him a better deal on the box then he was going to terminate the contract anyway as it was more hassle than it was worth as me, being the person who watches it and pays for it, was unable to get satisfactory service as i was not the account holder

anyway, a bit of faffing about later and the box is coming, for £149, no delivery charge, with a £50 credit to the account

i'll let you know what's what when it arrives

channel 217 is sky 3d, but you need a 3d telly to be able to watch it, although the hd box will run the 3d stuff