Originally Posted by
Tony Mannock
steve is to careful with his money (tight) to buy Vaseline
Mike Rainbum said steve just uses a bit of spit and hopes youve numbed up/got used to the pain by the time it dries up


Originally Posted by
Lee Reynolds
Child tax credits, sure start etc etc...all things the lower end of the scale needs for a decent qaulity of life. The richer dont need that so it doesnt affect them. The VAT increase hurts low income workers too, it wont hurt high end ones in normal day life as they have enough money to not worry about it!
I disagree. Most of the child tax and benefit system cuts affect those in the upper working/lower middle class so hardly "poor people" as you say but those who are above the breadline. the poorest are still adequately protected.
child tax credit, come on now!! the threshold is £40k!! your trying to tell me a family earning 40k is poor??? get a grip. Low income families will get MORE.
The sure start cut to first child only is sensible. People shouldnt be having children if they cant afford to pay for them. Surely part of SENSIBLE family planning is considering finances???
lone parents being made to work when kids go to school is a great idea!! stops the dole scrounging thick teens choosing teen pregnancy and handouts as a livestyle instead of working. Sure it will need managing to ensure the kids dont suffer but how many of such parents who would make the kids suffer if they lost benefits actually use their benefit money on the kids in the first place?? so on balance is any harm done by the governments plans?? no. Just shifts responsibility to where it rightly lies, in the parents hands!!
Although i am pleased to see the review of housing benefit rules and the review of job seekers and disability meaning reductions for those long term unemployed deemed to be capable of work. That way the genuine folk get paid, and the lazy scum get less.
The VAT increase is fuck all in the big scheme of things.
remember also the increase in personal tax allowance of £1k!!!
its very good news that there will be no 25% cut in health funding!!
Originally Posted by
simon170
Can someone explain this to me (not a piss take, actual question)...
Regarding the national dept, why are the government in such a rush to pay it back and put the public under greater financial strain? When other countrys have had to pay back dept (like Iceland) they've just said no, they cant afford it and will do it later when it suits them?
as said, partly due to our credit status as a country, also partly due to the debt size and interest payments. Even assuming we stop borrowing, the debt will still increase at a massive rate due to interest on it. Hence it makes sense to pay it off as quickly as possible...
just like if you got a credit card maxed out, youd be better off paying it off quick rather than spreading it over several years!! youd pay less interest.