Originally Posted by Chip
Simon, I guess its because your initial promise was to release the source code
I have never said I "wanted" to release the source code it was a case of being manipulated into doing so as a form leverage on here.
I said I would release the final executable under a freeware type license.
From that, it was assumed or the excuse used to make me do so was used in order to prevent me doing this project in an open comunity like this to protect other peoples business.
You know very well as I do that you do not need the the source code to have or use a program that is genuinely 100% free.
*** For those who dont know, source code is the program design that makes the final program that is used.
Originally Posted by Chip
.... that they are holding you to that, as that was how you said that this time you would demonstrate that you werent just doing what you have done in the past and creating something for personal use that you then turn into a product to try and sell.
When I first started the project before I wanted it to become free, I did consider selling it but changed my mind as any money made wouldnt really cover my costs but because the work was mainly done, it just seemed a waste to let it sit on the shelf gathering dust.
Anyway, I am no longer in self employed business and havent been for nearly 5 years.
I have stated since then that it would be a free entity and still stand by that to this day.
Surely if I stated that then I tried to sell it, then action could be taken against me. !
Originally Posted by Chip
So I guess you are a victim of your own broken promises.
There is no broken promise here as you will never finds me saying anything lioke the following statement ..."
I promise to give away the source code"
Originally Posted by Chip
If you genuinely want to help people and to do it just for fun, then I see no reason at all why you wouldnt just publish the source code like you said you would, and then everyone can help you carry on with the development, given your obvious lack of time to dedicate to such things surely it would be a bonus to you as well to have others help you with it?
I am doing it for fun and not profit.
Why would I want to publish the source code ? This would only allow people to abuse the hard work I have done.
This could lead to buggy versions, malicious versions, versions sold etc...
Giving the source away could allow some people to bypass encryption boards etc..
People can help develop the software in so much they can suggest features, test and help find bugs etc... so it makes sense to have a single point of develeopment given that it is only just one small executable file and not a major software project needing multiple writers.
Originally Posted by Chip
Seems perfectly reasonable to me for Stu to just make you stick to your promise that you made initially when he gave you permission to start talking about it on here. IF you didnt intend to stick to that promise, you shouldnt have made it when asking to talk on here in the first place, you only have yourself and yet more of your broken promises to blame for the situation you are in now surely?
As I stated before, I never made a promise to release the source code, this was something that was imposed on me in an effort to stop me.
The fact is, during the developement, I found a way to break Stu's encryption board protection (by accident).
I could have left this feature in the software but I removed it and informed Stu of the breach in his security which led him to close the loop hole and I promised him that I wouldnt include it in the program.
Now, It is my
opinion, since this point, he went from liking the software as he said on early threads to doing everything he can to prevent it in order to protect his business.
I find it strange that you as a software developer yourself, feel that I should give away all my hardwork to anyone when only the final program is needed for everyone who wants to use it.
Its my design, its my time taken to research the secrets, its my time to write the code and test it and how and what I choose to give this away is up to me.
You have an axe to grind with me so are 100% biased against me before you give me any pedantic reply otherwise !
All I would like now is to continue this project here as I have stated in an open an friendly community with these targets.....
1) The final executable program will be 100% free.
2) The software does not require any form of registration.
3) The software will not breach encryption boards.
Wouldnt it be nice if a ford dedicated project on a ford website involving ford enthusiasts was allowed or perhaps I should include BMW's in it too
Originally Posted by
badnews
pf mapers unite ahhahhh unlucky simon you are on a looser here chap
Yeah maybe !
Originally Posted by
Guile1
think people are worried you may stumble across something great, they are trying to hold you back! your obviously a talented chap so carry on
Yes, I think you may be right but there are plenty of mapping/ecu secrets I already know and have stated I wouldnt put them in so dont see the problem.
Thanks for the comment.
Originally Posted by
VEEDUBBED
Allrite simon,
I'm glad your around mate!,i've still got this Cosworth mapper/eeprom reader or whatever the fuk it is here gathering dust.
The bloody airline wouldn't let my sister on board with it when i said a few years back that i'd send it over to you..
If you carry on with your project let me know and i'll find another way of gettin it there.
The project has restarted and would like to do it here in the open.
Someone has offered to set up a website for me so may go down that route as I dont have time to do this and manage a forum.
I will arrange collection if you like or send you money to ship it ??
Originally Posted by
andy130
do you still have the ST simon?
No, someone run into me just after xmas and wrote it off
The insurance payout was less than the value so the payout was swallowed by outstanding finance and I was left with nothing even though it wasnt my fault and the gap insurance was a joke !
**** EDIT ****
I have decided rather than bitch about it again on here anymore, I will send Stu an email outlining my proposals once more just incase either him or myself have missunderstood anything. Will let you all know the result
