thanks for the excellent advice guys, really helped me out alot.

so with the mixed reviews on tren, what alternatives are there? im cuttting up so not really going to hard carb wise, so didnt want to much of a bulker cos if the diet aint up 2 it, its a wasit of time and money.

ollie, sus and decca not worth it? just read a lot of good things but mayb they were in the wrong sort of place! so what would be better then that?