theres optoins to pay ie 6monthly but it does state in stus post at the start at this forum section and posted 15/7/2007,that a trader can only pay him with a company cheque that way avoiding non gen traders applying.as for the spacers i explained to you i had to buy 5 to get my 1 and i put that post up when i got them and heard nothing,i have sold 3 to my mates and have one left im only trying to get my money back nothing more than that.