what i was hoping for is that for arguements sake 10 focus rs owners viewed this post and said what miles they had done before clutch renewal then i would have got an average as mine has now done 28,000 miles and a buyers guid said they are ready for new clutches at around the 40 k mark but i was told that one had done 80+ so thats why i was asking a sencible question . im aware of differant driving styles and bhp figs thats why i wanted an average .