Twellsie, couldnt agree more
thing is the wheels (without tyres) were less than £300 brand spankers

i wanted a set of m parra's with the 4" rear lip but they arent available for at least 4 weeks yet and the old wheels were buckled,kurbed with 2 fucked tyres .
i'l see how much clearance i get once the coilovers are on and then see if the parra's will fit under without too much arch work