meant palicomp (one from ebay) , i know overclockers are spot on , i built most of my current PC with stuff from them !

i could try giving palicom a call and asking if i was to win one of their auctions , if they will supply it unbuilt without the bits i dont need and chucking in something else instead , doubt it would work though !!

their auctions seem to be well specced for the price they go for , overclockers are 100% spot on a bit more expensive (compared to palicom auctions not BIN's)