Thanks for the reply, yes it is a 'hump' forward, other than that i dont hear a thing, the gear box has not shifted down and cruises quite happily on the motorway in top gear (which leads me to another question in a sec). I would say the 'hump' forward was noticable, it only happens when the engine is first started and when 2nd gear is engaged. If i can ask another question please regarding overdrive, on the side on my gear stick theres a button for over drive, if i press it a symbol comes on the dash and it says 'OD off' and if i press it again the symbol goes away, now if im cruising on the motorway do i want to be able to see the 'OD off' lit up on the dash or not? Any further info on the slgiht judder into 2nd from cold would be appreciated too.