Kev they are good but are exspensive had a few evo's into them but had about a tenner of change of a grand they aint fooking shyand thats no joke about the money they told my mate the tyres he had on his evo were no use on itso he bought new tyres,new brakes,blitz stuff,avcrs and few other things was only ment to be a quick service and that cost a few grand as they got my mate hyped up but they are good at the jap stuff