Matt have you got my mobile number? The meeting point is really really easy to get to. Come down the M62 towards Manchester and exit at Junction 24 (after the 4 lane uphill bit) and then follow the signs to Rochdale (off the motorway, to the roundabout then first exit, go onto the next roundabout and then 3rd exit signposted Outlane/Rochdale. Follow that road for 2 miles and then you are at the pub )

Bryan - Shit news about your daughter and the swine flu I think you need to come out and avoid contracting it