yea i don't think i'm going to let it stop me getting back onto a bike but i think i'll leave the fast riding to track now, i think since we joined the EU and over the last 4-5 years the roads have gotten really bad, thanks for the kind words though people, the one with the broken leg had only been riding a month or too to have some woman just pull straight out of a junction into the side of him, the other mate had been riding about 5 years, we honestly have no chance.