Update:
Have tried to get the starter working using a 12v battery charger to be sure of a good 12v, have tried making and breaking the connection to "shock" the starter, have tried hitting it at the same time with no joy, tried using the live wire against the wire going from the solenoid into the starter itself and it sparked like hell and sent my battery charger mental! But still nothing out of it
I have noticed that the smaller (ignition live) terminal on the starter solenoid is loose, by that i mean it spins around in the solenoid housing?? Also if i shake the starter it rattles???
I'm assuming its proper knackered!!
The only question is did it knacker up beacause it was bad luck/timing or did a stiff/seized engine cause it to break!