Originally Posted by
Chip
We get back from the EU most of what we pay in, it comes back as grants, and if we dont pay in then we get kicked out and our economy suffers as a result of no longer being a trade partner etc.
We cant change the immigration policy and it would be illegal for us to not give benefit to those entitled, the court cases would cost us far more than paying them does.
Same for domestic dole, we arent allowed to just stop paying it and let people starve to death, they are entitled, and rightly so as this isnt a 3rd world country.
So not really country fixed at all IMHO, just the sort of thing that you would read in a BNP leaflet thats totally ignoring all the actual facts.
We pay FAR more into the EU than we get back out!! The Human rights laws are some of the most farcical regualtions ever, with criminals basically having free reign over what they do, and various other ridiculous laws this country blindly follows
, Hence why we can't kick non-working non-producing immigrants out
.... Don't give me the BNP bullshit argument, I think immigration has a positive effect overall, our NHS would be fucked without it, but I do have a problem with people pitching up in the country, then not working and expecting everything to be given to them. In extreme cases, trying to kill us/ change OUR way of life, use stupid laws to get what they want and generally abusing our hospitality. Compared to the U.S.A, Australia etc who have a stringent process for getting citizenship or even being allowed to stay, the UK is a joke.
And you know fullwell that most people on the dole could work, they just choose not to
, it is a system in place for who needs it, being abused, and needs a MASSIVE overhaul.
Originally Posted by
Chip
Not greatly different to paying the armed forces to sit on their arse or be in training in this country, the only way to greatly drop the bill for looking after the armed services is to greatly drop the number of people in the armed services IMHO
Which would then of course lose us some leverage
Again, the armed forces are like a fire extinguisher, it is there in the hope that you will never need it, but it is VERY wise to keep it maintained to working level and in sufficient numbers to do the job should it be needed. Incidently the UK spends less on Defence than it does on most things, I think it was 2.6% GDP which is fuck all
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The basic problem of this country is the fact that all common sense has gone out of the window, and people use the EU Laws to the very limit of their intent, and the government push through ridiculous legislation that cripples the country..