Just to add to the confusion

I have purchased these wheels from RONDELL, as Engells no longer exist. We paid a large sum of money to Engells to commission them to re-make the wheels. They should have been with me 29th March 2004. They did n't show for months & months & months. We got suspicious and after a meeting with Rondell at the Automeckanica show in Frankfurt, we learned Engells had done a runner with the cash
Rondell told us that thay had not paid entirely for the mould from them either!!!
We asked Rondell if they would make them instead. they agreed so we gave them some fat cash too. We asked if they would have Engell or Rondell on the rims. We were told it would have nothing embossed on the rim as they would modify the mould for us.
The turned up made by Rondell, with an INVOICE from Rondell and badges from Rondell , but with Engells printed on the RIM!!!!
We phoned Rondell, who explained the mould was not in the best of shape as it was and to modify would cost £5000-10000, and investment we were not prepared to make (nor Rondell) as the run of wheels is very limited.

(Incidently the wheels were never ever made by Rondell or Engells)