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Old 13-05-2009 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Roscco
Sickens me to look in a mirror and see what looks back.
Thats not exclusive to being an addict though. most people will feel that way about themselves at some stage in thier life. Probably also indicates how much your self esteem has taken a kicking too.

Originally Posted by Chip
Warren, when I was looking at the info about some anti psychotic drugs for someone I know who had been diagnosed, I looked up how they worked, the company who made them described the way they worked starting something like:

"What we believe happens is that they....."

THEY DIDNT KNOW!!!

Most of the drugs on the market, the people making them dont actually know how they work, they just know from trials that they do work to an extent.

Fucking scarey stuff, I wouldnt want someone messing with my engine without understanding how it works, let alone my brain.

The side effects she picked up from the drugs were:
Massive weight gain
Became Diabetic
Lethargy
Loss of emotion
Loss of empathy
Theres a LOT of controversy surrounding the "antipsychotic" and sedating drugs used in psychiatry.

Sounds like you are describing Olanzipine nasty shit that is!!! I put on 3 stone in 4 months with that stuff despite sensible diet and gym 3 times a week. Not to mention problem with muscles and always being totally exhausted.

I think a lot of these drugs are over prescribed to make up for the lack of services and treatment in mental health. In the short term its cheaper for them to drug someone into "compliance" than treat them. Shame your quality of life goes down toilet!! Sure there are some people who during severe psychotic episodes, the benefits outwiegh the side effects and it might keep them out of hospital having the drug, but personally id rather have my own mind and learn to adapt to "voices" or "images" and instead learn what is and isnt real rather than have no control!!!

Oh and for the record, its not a "Loss" of emotion and empathy, but the loss of the ability to display the correct response. Often the person has feelings but it doesnt "come out" properly, they know what they should feel/respond and have the appropriate thoughts but the feelings /responses just dont come. its quite disturbing to experience, as is the opposite where you feel excessive emotions for no obvious reason!!!

The fundamental flaw is that addictions and all mental health is chronically underfunded as its still a taboo subject. Spending on mental health does NOT win votes as most people are still ignorantly biased thinking we are all axe murdering nutcases or sickos like huntley etc. The irony is that 1/3rd of us will suffer from mental ill health at some stage in our lives, just as 1/3rd of us will suffer from a serious physical illness/injury of some kind!! yet look at the difference in funding!

There is also reason to believe that some psychiatric drugs are deliberately misused to ease the workload of hospital staff or care staff especially with vulnerable patients who find it hard to say what they want. Not to forget a number of so called "professionals" who follow the "we know best" principle rather than actually interacting with the patient to work the best way forward for everyone. In my opinion, sedatives are abused too much in mental hospital settings rather than getting to the root cause of the behaviour, plus using threats of being medicated to try and encourage compliance.