You know what never thought of checking that mate cheers, i know its done it since i changed the hub on passenger side with both the 3i calipers/discs and the cossie calipers/discs so it could well be something as simple as that. Will give them both a look over if the rain holds off tomorro evening

The cossie discs dont have a screw hole so its not like i could just let whats left snapped in poke thru that.
Prob wont be that simple thou knowing my luck

tiddler normally i'd agree with u mate a judder like that i would usually suspect the discs and change them specially due to their background but the gf is adament that it was still as bad with the xr3i calipers.discs on so its deff gotta be something else, but since changeing the hub by all accounts!!