thanks all,im going to try my zx9r carbs i have on my vulcan pinto,i found it not that hard to do,i can still get the dellortos,but there 180 inculds the manfuild second hand then i have to get the gaskets,"now there are two types the whole kit at 79 or just the gaskets for 20,i found that at the delorto site any ideas on what set,"any way i could get the std efi for less than that,im really stuck!!!