Okay, im getting the 12v when its turning over, but you reckon it should be there all the time when ignition is on? Hmmmmm, what should i do with that then? And i am using a s2 black ecu, so guessing i need a s1 one then!! The loom i used already had a pink relay plug like the s2, thats why i have used a s2 item. I switched the wiring in the plug around so i had the correct wires going to the correct terminals on the relay according to the haynes manual. Because i know people have done this before. okay, im now more stuck than i was before!!