how long will it take? guy, your in this for the long haul aint no quick fix to bulking up get some one who knows what they are doing and learn good form first i would aim for heavy basic,ie squats,flat bench,shoulder presses, back work, throw in some arms aswell, but the most important thing to remember is it takes time, once you get the high from training you,ll probably not give it up, buy the way it can be done with out the gear...