Madrod, firstly my comment wasnt aimed at you in the slightest, for one i dont even know who you are, so chill mate. I was merely trying to put myy opionion accross that a lot of people find out there bhp level merely to boast down the pub to their mates. for a mucky old £5 i'll knock a rolling road graph up for someone on excel so they can boast to their mates that there saxo 1.1 forte is making 207bhp @ the wheels at 0.7bar of boost