Unfortunately for you lot Fiddy I think your right,Barca and Real are half decent ,Man Utd however are on a different planet to anyone else in World football at the minute, shame for Liverpool cause I think if you take the Mancs out the equation I cant see anyone else being able to beat Liverpool in Europe,funny realy theyre like two different sets of players,domestically they`ll struggle to beat Hull/Stoke but on a Euro night they`ll pretty much hammer anyone!!