Well i went to manheim leeds and ended up bidding on a tidy 56 plate LWB. I thought i had it at £3200, then it started to go crazy with the online bids. Ended up at £3750 (plus the vat). Still a cheap tidy van in my opinion, but more than i wanted to pay really (or more than i have to spend more like ). Ill be going to the next one for sure if they have some others. I know now that ill easily be able to get a tidy 2004-2005 model for well below my budget from there if or when some turn up. Cheers cozzfather