Nah, 1 PL and 5 anything else. We need to over take your official trophies list of 59 and the 4 main ones list, both of which give you the title of most successful English club.

I love the FA cup been great games and shocks this and last year, Carling too but you're right PL and CL is the priority these days. FA cup is the oldest cup competition in the world though and represents well over 100+ years of footie started 80 years before the European cup so todays slightly lesser reflection is irrelevant. The European CL wasn't always this big and some English teams weren't keen especially the FA wasn't and Real madrid who won it the most won 6 of their 9 before Englands first winners of it Man United won it in 68. Comparable with the FIFA world club cup in that its important to the teams and people of the other 5 continents champions league winners but doesn't get much attention in England but it will grow if they get it right.

AC Milan won the European cup what 7 times? 5 more than Juve but they aren't the biggest or most successful Italian club.If it wasn't for those 5 Carling cups ahead you are then you wouldn't be ahead overall so again it all counts in history. Here's a quote I posted elsewhere from a Liverpool fan on red and white kop...


I thought you got this out of your system already, petal? Oh well looks like I have another Redkop to play with.