i bought a 53 plate vectra 2.0 T in july 2007 for £6750 and sold it for £3500 a few months ago had very slight bumper damage but 3g is alot to loose the thing with rs's are they seem to be steady or go up a few years back my mate bought a mint s2 for £1200 now you'd be lucky to find one in that condition and spec for £2000 thats the thing with new cars