Ginge but this is the debate aint it. Why are these big power cars not hitting these speeds? The rw/dave e car did 150mph with 200@wheels, tims car did 154mph with old spec and about 250bhp (think) sunny did his 178mph (but sunnys spec changes every week lol) and keith taylor did 154mph too with think he had 240bhp so I cant honestly see how more cars cant be hitting 160mph really.