dear lord, all i said was the FACT the pic isnt a doug plenum, which it isnt,

i never mentioned its better, worse, cheaper all fook all.

i posted the pics on the other thread myself, as we got talking about the different throttle linkage mine uses

its an interesting subject though, because thicker ones weigh more, and without a support bar under the manifold, they can crack like millers has and my old one did the first time. sib actually cracked the manifold part on his when unsupported lol

i think we are all mad and should use 500 ones

for the record im sure dougs plenums, are very good, i never said otherwise......