thanks rossco ,glad the other side is spotless of any rust ,rossco how do i remove the rear qtr glass ,im going to get the whole car painted again ,its only the doors and one rear qtr pannel more than what were painting anyway ,i took the windscreen out and found 2 ,,,,,,,,,,,,ok 3 more bits need sorting ,my cars a little rust factory . no realy rossco ,whats the easiest way to get the glass out ,(no brick jokes ,)it took a day to sort it ,but a block of wood and a big hammer ,sorted the problem i had with the a post, i sent you a pm the other day ,just ignore it ,as weve done it ,thanks anyway ,got half of the welding done tonight ,then prep ,then paint ,then after 6 months i will get my car back ,