no prob mate...didnt realize that posting things was forcing anything on any one.... see im a beleiver in giving people choice...if the fact that ive posted a couple of good links up has..upset peps im sorry...just thought that people could make up their own minds ...see the more infomation you get the more peps can make their own informed desicion...and that in a kind of long winded way brings me to my point i followed a thread on d/ol usage...i have some knowledge in that area...im not saying that it should be taken as gospel..just it is another view to consider..to attack someone for this is pretty petty...it is these kinds of people who need to take time to consider all the info they can ..then diciede what is best for them...be interested to here zillas views on this..as you guys seem to worship him..(that is no slight on you zilla) its just that it cant be healthy to have such onesided veiws that a lot of these guys have...if you dont want good cheap protien dont buy it....