You lot are talking crap.
I do agree about the greens though, they are not up to much the formula they use now is V7, the older V4 was ace, pity they changed it.
The RED and YELLOW stuff ebc pads work 90% perfect from cold, how do I know I use Yellowstuff on my 2wd cos(360bhp) and I do use the performance, even stu from msd uses yellows on his "M" beemer.
I have used most of the pad makes over the years, if you think reds are shit, maybe you broke the cardinal rule of not allwoing them to bed in properly.
I use my car on the road in ice snow all weathers, no noise little dust.
Incidentally the ebc red and yellow are approved by the POLICE for thier response cars, ferrodo are not, ask why many forces use ebc pads.
I get ferrodo free if I want them, but I PAY for ebc yellowstuff I wonder why.
tabetha