so i could space them out slightly then? i had 17's on a while back an the handled like a turd. lost the back end at silly speed's goin round a corner. i took them off the next day.. i dunno what off set they were tho. they were a multifit alloy that i got for paintin a m8's car. but the wheel's i've just got are aparently off a 4x4 saph. just waitin on them turnin up so i can get them on..