chip..........could be........i have a vid of me on my first ring lap...........and a grey M3 type thing goes flying past me..........i put my foot down to try and catch up...i do a bit, but then i havn't got a clue and the BM fooks off..............the only way to show u would be to take a vid of it playing on the telly and post it......(but i dont have a VHS any more)