lol no not really, but for me its 150 odd miles just to get off the m4 at Swansea. I had the week off and it was something I been meaning to do for a while, so I got on with it. Well worth all the fuel burnt as the roads up there are so much better than in England in every way, plus they are alot quieter. The Evo triangle was amazing, with some wide open sweepers where you can cut the croners, to the steep wooded section near the village