ROFL @ the posts here. Yes, that must be it, I'm being heavy handed and ripping them deliberately Come work for me and we'll see how you get on. And it's not just me either, nearly all our fitters say the same thing. I dunno, maybe BMW nuy cheapo tax disc holders

As for "part of the history of the car" - thats the point I raised in post #15 - if people modify their Mini's and 1/3/5/3tc series from standard by changing the rims, chaingng the stereo's. screwing bluetooth and phone kits to the dash (screwing them in? Thats permanent holes FFS) then why moan about a tax disc holder?

As for pride inthe car? Porseche owners generlly seem to have more pride in the car - I've never fitted a windscreen to a Porsche that wasn't spotless and polished, as opposed to the countless Beemers than are filthy, inside and out, yet they don't moan?

I still fail to see what the big deal is about the dealer stamp logo on the tax disc holder? Many people have pride in their cars but yet fail to moan about tax disc holder - why sould beemer owners be different?